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Old 10-19-2007, 10:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I got Gardasil this past year myself, I just barely made it under the upper age limit they have right now. I had no side effects other than it kind of "burned" for a little bit after the shot. Well worth it in my opinion, even in a monogamous relationship, considering the other option of possibly dying of cancer from a virus most *everyone* has, or can get even without sleeping with other people.

I'm not in favor of all vaccines willy-nilly, but that is one my kids will get (when I have them).
The upper age limit isn't really a limit, it's just the vaccine maker's "target audience."
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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From my research it looks like Texas is a parent opt out state. The Governor may have issued an order, but parents can opt out. You know I just don't know how I feel about this vaccine. The thought process behind this vaccine seems logical, but what are the possible long term side effects? I don't believe that there has been enough research done as of yet to even consider this for my own daughters. It is interesting that HPV is carried by both men and women, but as of now only young girls are given the vaccine? Like I said, I just don't know, I don't feel comfortable with it.
I am not sure that I feel that comfortable with it either... especially for 8 or 9 year old girls! The fact of the matter is that it is a vaccine for an STD... Hopefully by the time the girls are old enough to worry about STDs, they will be educated enough about the matter to make informed and wise decisions on their own.

Drug companies are shoving drugs down our throats these days like never before through tv commercials. That didn't happen years ago. Doctors used to reccomend medications, not TV! Of course some medications are necessary, but I always feel that it's best to avoid taking meds when possible.

Also... I heard something to the effect that they feel that the early vaccines that children are getting these days may be causing autism? A coworker was telling me about it...

Anyhow, that's my two cents.
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i fell just under the upper age limit and it's being covered by my insurance (BCBS). I didn't have any problems with it and am actually due for my second shot - but i'm going to wait until I get back to Salt Lake to get it done because the nurse there was so super good. (i hate shots!)

Yes, HPV is an STD, but would you not give your kid a shot for AIDS if it became available? Cervical cancer is not something I would wish upon anyone so you can bet I'll be making sure my kids get this one.

ALso, the reason they are giving it so young is that it has to be given before exposure to HPV in order to be effective.
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We have gone from Orthodontics to cervix's.... only on JG - LOL

Couldn't resist posting some info on HPV/Gardasil.

MOST insurances are paying for the vaccine. Call the 1-800 # on your insurance card and ask if it is a benefit. Otherwise it will cost you ~ $150-200. per shot and you need 3 shots in the series. One now, one in 2 months and one 6months from the first. It is currently FDA approved and CDC recommended for ages 9-26. Even if you have had one form of HPV and have been treated you are still a canidate for the vaccine, it will help protect you from the other 3 high risks forms of HPV....


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis...ds/vis-hpv.pdf

High Efficacy Of Gardasil® Leads Independent Data And Safety Monitoring Board To Recommend Urgent Vaccination Of Young Women In Placebo Group


Gardasil has been studied for years in Europe. It is a fair question to wonder what will be the out come in 10-20-30 yrs regarding the vaccine BUT we know there is a HUGE outbreak of HPV now and it is evidence based, medically proven that HPV causes cervical cancer....

I guess you have to ask yourself, would you rather take your chances (risk) getting the immunization and have a high likely hood of protection against cervical CA or take a great risk that you will likely GET HPV in your lifetime.... That is what you have to weigh.

They are looking at giving the vaccine to males and that will soon be coming down the pike. Males are the carriers. I tell all my gals, "you have sex with every single person your partner has had sex with if you have unprotected sex". Males can get genital warts from HPV, we get warts and/or cervical CA if HPV is left untreated.....
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I am extremly conservative with things, as you have read my other posts, but this is the problem I have: I would never give my child a vaccine just because the state mandates it, I think a vaccine like this is up to the parents or young adult. This vaccine is pretty important. No, I don't want my child having sex before marriage, but it may happen or she may marry someone that has sex before marriage. I would like her to have it just in case. Let's say she does wait...well, future-hubby didn't. Should my daughter pay with a std that causes cancer just because future-hubby made a mistake at one or several points in his life? I will follow the research on the vaccine and make my final decision when the time comes, but if I had to make my decision now, I would probably give my girls the shot.

I think, as far as the autism thing with vaccinations, it was mostly based on the fact that there was a preservative using mercury or something. (Please someone correct me if I am wrong). They are now using a different preservative even though the majority of research did not show a connection. Maybe in 10 years, we will find out why it happens or it might still be a mystery.

I was not a big proponate of any vaccines until I had a talk with several of my son's doctors, which included a pediatrician, a neonatologist, a nephrologist, and a urologist. All said how important it was for my son to have the vaccinations and explained why. Also, if my other kids did not get the vaccinations, it would be putting him at risk even if he did get the vaccines. I tried to compare the risk vs. benefits, and for us, the benefits outweighed the risks. On the otherhand, a fact that totally scares the heck out of me, my kids cousins are not all vaccinated. So, we are still at risk. My kids did get the mumps and chicken pox, even with the vaccines....it was a mild form though.

I think the key to whatever decision that you make is to just make an informed one. Research the facts, talk to others, and then make the decision that is right for your family.
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If I were eligible or had a daughter that was eligible for the vaccine, we would definitely be getting it. There was a captain at one airline where I worked that cheated on his wife. Everyone knew. His wife ended up with cervical cancer and died. I have to say he was one of the biggest creeps I have ever met.
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Also, I may be incorrect, but HPV is super contagious and the typical barrier methods aren't too effective at preventing it.
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From my understanding, one of the main reasons why it is so contagious is most people don't know they have it until they get their bad pap...men really have no clue unless they have the wart stran. Therefore, they pass it on to other partners, most of the time unknowingly. It can take years before getting an abnormal pap. Yes, just like any other std's, condoms aren't 100% effective, but they do help. It is also passed by oral sex...some mouth cancers are now being researched as hpv being the cause. A lot of times, when you are with a partner for a long time, you use other forms of birth control. People think to get tested for hiv, but hpv isn't something that a lot of people think to get tested.
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