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[Kristie]

I've wondered about that before as well and have stated that in a couple of threads.. only DG claimed that she wasn't a troll, so I let it be.... as I'm finding out more information (like she claims to join this website before the TOW website - which some of us have found out is NOT true), it does seem like she's living in fantasy land.. wanting some acceptance from us, thereby justifying her R (relationship) with this MP (married pilot).. which she should have known long ago that she would not be getting....

because if you remember quite some time ago.. she came on here spilling about her R with MP and how she wanted to break it off but just didn't have the courage and needed our "support"... only now, we find out she never intended to break it off (?)... so why (again) DG did you come onto our website? to gloat... to get acceptance from us and to make friends with other pilots wives (which would never happen because your part of our "AIDS" - airline induced divorce syndrome - problem), to let this wife know that her husband is cheating on her (i'm pretty sure she's not on my site) thereby taking the "telling her" off of your conscience or to troll my site causing the women on this site to get concerned about their own present or future relationships? did we not give you enough support to break it off or were/are you laffing behind our backs saying "stupid wives"...

people like you give women in general - a bad name.... and that MM of yours needs to get his act in gear and let his wife know because at any point now (because of all the information you've given out and all that we know now), his wife could find out any way, any day... and it won't be by our doing...if he tells her, it'll go a lot more smoothly than if she finds out any other way....truth be known - you probably just ended your affair all on your own....

which will be sad for his entire family and especially his wife... and if she comes here, she's more than welcome and we will welcome her with open arms...

I don't quite get it anymore...but i'm watching...closely...

[Doogie]

I've just been watching from the sidelines from both FCAPA and the gloryb.com website and from the information that I've publically gathered, it's kinda tempting to go over to the union forum and say "Hey (insert aircraft type and position and current flying status) who commutes from XXX who is married and seeing a single teacher in XXX where you commute to, your mistress is spreading your bidness on the internet and your wife is bound to find out so you best start working on the 'Oh hon, sure I (blank) her, but I love you'-speech pronto.

People get involved in all sorts of wacky stuff and use wacky rationale for doing such. But if you're involved in a situation which your momma would certainly be upset about and you feel guilty- good! You're supposed to feel guilty about sleeping with a married man! It's called a 'conscious'.

If it hurts, GOOD! It's supposed to because both he (dare I call "MM" a "he" because he's certainly displaying conduct unbecoming of being a real man, and yes, I'd say it to his face within his swinging distance) and you are engaging in behavior that if you're religious, would result in an eternity in hell or if you're not religious is going to result in someone getting a verbal, if not physical and financial asskicking and you've got absolutely no one else to blame but yourself.

It's not society.

It's not the 'situation'.

It's nothing more than hormones, the thirst for "O.P.P" and that strange need that some people have to self-create scandal and then breathlessly exclaim their emotional despair to an audience.

You hurt? Wah. My heart bleeds.

Hey, when I knowingly decided to knock down a beehive with a baseball bat and got stung fourteen times when I was a kid, was it the bees fault? Nope. I was the dumass that knowingly engaged in behavior that I knew (or at least [i:fda46f4191]should have known[/i:fda46f4191]) would result in disaster. When I came back in the house with those nasty throbbing stingers in my back, did my mom exclaim "Poor baby!"? Nope, it was "Why in the hell were you f'ing with those bees, son? You [b:fda46f4191]should have known better[/b:fda46f4191]".

Perhaps that's my final answer: "You should have known better."

[MQAAord]

My, my! I've been away from my computer for a day and look what comes out!

You can tell me I'm ugly, rob me, wreck my car....do lots of things that will irritate me, but the only sure way to really piss me off is to lie to me.

I resent that I've given support to someone who couldn't tell me the truth. I'm so very sorry that I shared a very personal story that I thought might 'help'.

[Doogie]

You're ugly, gimme your wallet and throw me the keys ! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(Just kidding MQA)

[MQAAord]

You a funny guy!

(Love the beehive story! My folks are the same way. I used to come in from hugging on the kittens and I'd be sneezing up a storm and my eyes would be beet red, and all my dad would say is "well, then, don't rub the cats in your face and you wouldn't sneeze so much!")

[Kristie]

mine were always "well, if you don't do nuthin bad, then there won't be any nightmares to haunt you"....

[Bigsweetie]

I can totally relate to Skibum's response/question. My DH and I have had some trust issues of late (no cheating). But reading Dancinggirls posts lit a fire in me. It caused alot of sadness, frustration, and doubt for me. I was drawn to continue reading the posts because, of course, I was looking for clues... "Is it my husband?". Unfortunately I fell pray to it all.

My DH lit the fire, but Dancinggirl fanned the flames. I have been discussing this thread with my husband, but keeping alot of feelings about it inside... til last weekend. After Dancinggirl's return I finally broke down and just began crying uncontrollably (of course, in the Meijer parkinglot :? ) and my Dh and I had a long talk and put alot of things on the table.

My point is that although I find Dancinggirl's actions to be deplorable, the lying uncondonable, and the thread becoming just plain frustrating, it has helped me (although through sadness and depression) get these feelings out to my husband. Don't get me wrong, i'm NOT thanking her in ANY WAY!! But these issues may have festered in the recesses of my mind if I hadn't been so upset by her posts.

Regardless, hopefully this is all over now and we can move on as a group.

Thanks for listening...

Tanya

[Bigsweetie]

My goof!!

I read the first page of this thread and replied... then I saw that there was a second page... OOPS!! A little behind in my responses.

[img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]ops:

Tanya

[skibum515]

Well, John and I had a long talk last night and as much as I knew exactly what he would say (we had talked about it before even though there has never been any trust issues), it was nice hearing it again when I could see him. I guess that was something that didn't really help this whole situation was that I couldn't see John right away to talk to him about it and see his face when we were talking. It was nice last night to see him and get the hug and reassurance that I needed, and to know that we don't have secrets from eachother. I know I have jumped into our relationship with both feet and totally open, and he's done the same. At first it was somewhat strange for both of us because neither of us had ever been so open with anyone. It actually felt kind of good having someone to share all that with. At a point though i guess i don't know if john is telling me everything but i have to trust that he cares enough about me to be honest.

what really kind of irked me though talking to john was when he told me about some guys who were in his AHP chapter that talked about not being able to live the "pilot lifestyle" and "have a girl in every city". THese guys are 19-23 and they already are looking to have their wife at their home base and 2+ girls on the side?? WTF? It sucks because most people who know these guys would tell a girl to stay the hell away from them, but eventually someone is going to fall for them no matter what people say and she's going to end up hurt. At a point i really hope it IS because they are only 19-23 that these guys are saying all this stuff and that they will mature at some point and realize what they are talking about.

WHere do guys like this get the idea that having more than one woman is acceptable? SOme might have seen their dads or moms cheat on thier spouse, but shouldn't they have then also seen the havoc it wreeked on their relationship? I am rather confused about that. I do believe however that there are guys out there in this world who are genuine nice guys and we just gotta pick them out of the @ssholes.

</8am ramble>

[Doogie]

Not that it's appropriate, but it's largely 'guy talk'. Take six colleged-aged guys, throw in some beer and talk about future plans and you're liable to hear anything.

The guys in his AHP chapter that think they're going to meet the girl of their dreams, land a job, and then have 'a girl in every station' are dorks. Don't listen to them. T hey're probably trying too hard to live the 'legend' of the airline pilot lifestyle with very little knowledge of the realities of the profession.

[i:256202e8cb]Some[/i:256202e8cb] guys think it's ok to be with more than one woman because there's a subculture of drama queen women that prey on married men and when they're matched with the subculture of low relationship esteem, the fireworks fly.