ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!!

Melissa · 08-02-2008, 04:43 PM

So, last night I'm hanging out with DF, after he got back from a 2 day, and getting ready to spend the next 5 days sitting at the airport on reserve. No complaints though. He just made CA, made it through training, and LOVES sitting on the left side of the plane. He checks his work email one more time before bed, and he gets a lovely memo from ASA management stating that they are having to downgrade 37 pilots from CA back to FO. He is number 34. He will find out for sure in 10 days. He just made it through training less than 3 weeks ago. He worked so hard, studied so long, and made it through without one single mishap or mess-up. He was doing so well that the instructors were commenting on his flying ability, and how if possible, they would certify him immediately. And then they reward him by making him CA and bumping up his pay 40%...ONLY TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY 3 WEEKS LATER! I understand the economy sucks and businesses are suffering. I understand that everyone has to just be thankful for having a job in the first place and to be happy that he's not being furloughed. However, why is it that those dumb arses at ASA can't figure it out that they don't need 40 more CA's BEFORE they spend thousands of dollars to train them for the fricking position??!!!! I am thankful that we didn't make any large financial changes based on his short-lived increase in pay. But I really can't get over the complete and utter incompetence. I'd like to see the idiot who made the decision in the first place to upgrade. One can only hope that they are sitting behind a desk somewhere and have absolutely no chance of ever actually flying a plane. To top it all off, this information came in memo form. There was no, "We regret to inform you" or "we're sorry we screwed you over and gave you false hope, while wasting your time". Instead, it resembled the following: "look at the below information, if your name appears you may be downgraded to FO. We need to free up 37 CA positions. We will inform you in 10 days of your final position."
It's a nice way to boost employee moral. AS*&%$#S!!!!!

AnnaRose · 08-02-2008, 05:21 PM

Im sorry. Thats so frustrating. He must be p o'd. At least he is so close to upgrading again. It sso frustrating how airlines do this. The same thing happened to my BF. He leaves ASA right before upgrading this past Sept becuase Spirit promised him a 2 year upgrade, new planes, etc... Now he will be furloughed Sept 1. He will have no job, and whats frustrating is not knowing what he's going to do next. Im sorry he got downgraded. Im keeping my fingers crossed that he upgrades again soon for you

Chi829 · 08-02-2008, 06:36 PM

Melissa,, this sucks! MY DH is also a new Capt with ASA, he finished up training in Jan so Im not sure if this will affect him or not. He wasnt even aware of the memo as he got home from a 4 day early yesterday,.,,,, and we have a baby due in Oct... oh goody,, Im gonna check his company email now......

ASA_wife · 08-03-2008, 08:33 AM

I am so sorry, my husband is still an FO for ASA and at this rate maybe one for a while. His roommate at the crash pad he has in ATL is also on the CA to FO chopping block. The guy is like your husband, just got done of training not to long ago. Jason felt real bad for him as well.

I am wondering if this is because of the three planes that the mechanic totalled and lost ASA 90 million. So to help elivate the loss they are downgrading CA.

Kristie · 08-09-2008, 11:13 AM

whoah...what's the story there? 3 planes totaled by a mechanic??

BStory · 08-09-2008, 12:49 PM

I was told there were two aircrafts in the hanger while the third was towed out to do an engine run up. The mechanic incorrectly set the engine indication and had far too much power. As an ending result the aircraft jumped the chalks and struck the two aircrafts in the hanger.

Melissa · 08-11-2008, 05:49 PM

Well, the planes were insured, so I think the downgrades are due to fuel cost and Delta cutting 7% of their flying. Oh well...

mrs767er · 08-11-2008, 08:20 PM

WAFB Channel 9, Baton Rouge, LA |Three planes collide in Baton Rouge, damage in millions
this article was updated 7/31
that much in damages costs every company involved

Melissa · 08-12-2008, 04:45 PM

That was quite an accident. He was downgraded today for sure. They let him know via memo. Really boosts employee moral that way.

08-02-2008, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Melissa Jetgirls Plus Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 30 Recipes: Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! So, last night I'm hanging out with DF, after he got back from a 2 day, and getting ready to spend the next 5 days sitting at the airport on reserve. No complaints though. He just made CA, made it through training, and LOVES sitting on the left side of the plane. He checks his work email one more time before bed, and he gets a lovely memo from ASA management stating that they are having to downgrade 37 pilots from CA back to FO. He is number 34. He will find out for sure in 10 days. He just made it through training less than 3 weeks ago. He worked so hard, studied so long, and made it through without one single mishap or mess-up. He was doing so well that the instructors were commenting on his flying ability, and how if possible, they would certify him immediately. And then they reward him by making him CA and bumping up his pay 40%...ONLY TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY 3 WEEKS LATER! I understand the economy sucks and businesses are suffering. I understand that everyone has to just be thankful for having a job in the first place and to be happy that he's not being furloughed. However, why is it that those dumb arses at ASA can't figure it out that they don't need 40 more CA's BEFORE they spend thousands of dollars to train them for the fricking position??!!!! I am thankful that we didn't make any large financial changes based on his short-lived increase in pay. But I really can't get over the complete and utter incompetence. I'd like to see the idiot who made the decision in the first place to upgrade. One can only hope that they are sitting behind a desk somewhere and have absolutely no chance of ever actually flying a plane. To top it all off, this information came in memo form. There was no, "We regret to inform you" or "we're sorry we screwed you over and gave you false hope, while wasting your time". Instead, it resembled the following: "look at the below information, if your name appears you may be downgraded to FO. We need to free up 37 CA positions. We will inform you in 10 days of your final position." It's a nice way to boost employee moral. AS*&%$#S!!!!! __________________ Melissa- living in ATL and engaged to ASA Cap.

08-02-2008, 05:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
AnnaRose Jetgirls Plus Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 230 Recipes: Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! Im sorry. Thats so frustrating. He must be p o'd. At least he is so close to upgrading again. It sso frustrating how airlines do this. The same thing happened to my BF. He leaves ASA right before upgrading this past Sept becuase Spirit promised him a 2 year upgrade, new planes, etc... Now he will be furloughed Sept 1. He will have no job, and whats frustrating is not knowing what he's going to do next. Im sorry he got downgraded. Im keeping my fingers crossed that he upgrades again soon for you __________________ "A person travels the world over in search of what he needs, and returns home to find it..."

08-02-2008, 06:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chi829 Jetgirls Ol' School Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,209 Recipes: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! Melissa,, this sucks! MY DH is also a new Capt with ASA, he finished up training in Jan so Im not sure if this will affect him or not. He wasnt even aware of the memo as he got home from a 4 day early yesterday,.,,,, and we have a baby due in Oct... oh goody,, Im gonna check his company email now...... __________________ Jo Happily Mrs. Adams www.joandbillsblog.blogspot.com

08-03-2008, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
ASA_wife Jetgirls Plus Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Bedford, MA USA Posts: 39 Recipes: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! I am so sorry, my husband is still an FO for ASA and at this rate maybe one for a while. His roommate at the crash pad he has in ATL is also on the CA to FO chopping block. The guy is like your husband, just got done of training not to long ago. Jason felt real bad for him as well. I am wondering if this is because of the three planes that the mechanic totalled and lost ASA 90 million. So to help elivate the loss they are downgrading CA.

08-09-2008, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kristie Admin/Owner Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 6,484 Recipes: Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! whoah...what's the story there? 3 planes totaled by a mechanic?? __________________ www.jetcareers.com

08-09-2008, 12:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
BStory Jetgirls Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 52 Recipes: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! I was told there were two aircrafts in the hanger while the third was towed out to do an engine run up. The mechanic incorrectly set the engine indication and had far too much power. As an ending result the aircraft jumped the chalks and struck the two aircrafts in the hanger.

08-11-2008, 05:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Melissa Jetgirls Plus Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 30 Recipes: Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! Well, the planes were insured, so I think the downgrades are due to fuel cost and Delta cutting 7% of their flying. Oh well... __________________ Melissa- living in ATL and engaged to ASA Cap.

08-11-2008, 08:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
mrs767er Jetgirls Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincy Area Posts: 165 Recipes: Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! WAFB Channel 9, Baton Rouge, LA \|Three planes collide in Baton Rouge, damage in millions this article was updated 7/31 that much in damages costs every company involved

08-12-2008, 04:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Melissa Jetgirls Plus Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 30 Recipes: Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ASA Downgrades- You've got to be kidding me!!! That was quite an accident. He was downgraded today for sure. They let him know via memo. Really boosts employee moral that way. __________________ Melissa- living in ATL and engaged to ASA Cap.

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