Going to Pro Standards - consequences?

[flyershoe]

My bf just finished a trip last night (fortunately in one piece) with a CA who is in serious need of being fired. This guy was not only lazy and unprofessional, his actions were unsafe and violated both company and FAA policy. Brian found out during the very first leg that this guy has already had multiple missed trips and sick calls, and has a meeting with the CP soon anyway. How he hasn't gotten fired already is beyond me. Anyway, he feels like if he turns this guy in that he'll be labeled a scab. I told him that calling pro standards is different from going to the chief pilot or something like that - besides, this guy is an accident waiting to happen. He said that if he weren't worried about the consequences it would be a no-brainer. I'll just give you the first example of what this guy did - B met him at the plane (the guy showed up late) and said "Okay, are we ready to go?". No checklist, no briefing. It was the CA's leg to fly and as soon as they took off, he put on the autopilot, turned to Brian and said "You've got it, right?", leaned his chair back and went to sleep. It's bad enough that I would contact pro standards on my own if he doesn't do it... and that example is just the FIRST day!! Why he didn't say that the CA's behavior was unacceptable then, I'll never know. Has anyone had any experience with this - especially those of you involved with XJT? Thanks!

[rgphib]

Wow....that is all I can say! DH will be home later, I'll ask him what he thinks.

[UKcats06]

Wow, thats kinda scary. It scares me when dh is flying with other students and eventually his students when he is an instructor, because they dont know how to fly. But you would think with a ca of an airline, they would know what to do and what not to do! I would think he wouldn't get labeled as a scab for that, he could potentially save the company millions if this guy is an accident waiting to happen. Aren't scabs the guys who cross the picket line and fly during a strike? I wouldn't think this would qualify as being called a scab. I also am not really in the airlines yet, just my 2 cents.

[rgphib]

DH says to definelty go to Pro Standards. If he is unsafe, Brian really needs to say something. DH put it this way "what if on his next trip this guy crashes the airplane".....how would Brian react knowing that?

Honestly, DH could not believe it when I told him the story. He said that is what Pro Standards is for.....

Hope that helps.

[POPPY]

I remember a time when DH was flying for XJT and he had several incidents with a female FO getting very angry and cussing in front of passengers. She was talking on her cell during pre-flight and would get in fights on the phone, cussing and being rude. DH would ask her to stop and she would throw the F bomb at him and would be really pissy throughout the rest of the trip. She was really rude to the flight attendants and would tell really raunchy jokes to my dh. It made him feel really uncomfortable and after two or three pairings with her, he had enough and went to the CP. The CP told him to go to Pro Standards. He did and they suspended her for three weeks without pay while they assigned her to anger management classes and sexual harassment courses. DH upgraded to CAL soon after, but he heard through friends still at the company that she had several complaints filed against her even after she returned from suspension. Not sure if she is still there though.

[BAC]

If there is any reason that somebody feels unsafe or worried flying with any pilot, they need to tell somebody... ESPECIALLY when they violate FAA laws and company policies. As a matter of fact, for not mentioning anything about pilot who doesn't obey the laws and procedures, they could themselves be in trouble.

Something like flying a plane should not be taken lightly ever. It is a highly complex peice of machinery, and any one thing could go wrong at any time.

As for him being labeled a scab or a nark or whatever-- who cares?.. as long as he and other pilots are safe.

One other thing.... Ask your boyfriend if his company does a thing where they can be put on a list to not be paired with a particular pilot. My boyfriend has had to do this before with some pilots and yours should definently take advantage of that.

[MNewby]

Yea I agree, WOW!!! My dh is so by the book that this would probably push him over the edge. Props to him for hanging in and not strangling the guy. He needs to take action on it though. Keep us posted when he does.

[flyershoe]

Thanks for the responses! I'm going to bug him until he does it. I will let you know what happens. He hasn't been home much lately... this month has been brutal for commuting. Next month his schedule is soooo much better.

BAC:
As far as not being paired with that same captain, this guy wasn't on his trip to begin with, he got put on his trip after his original captain didn't show up (so this trip was messed up from the beginning!). If for some reason this guy doesn't get fired, if he shows up on any of Brian's pairings, he can always trade away those trips. A lot of pilots keep their own personal lists of people that they won't fly with...I don't think that it's possible for most airlines to honor those kinds of specific requests. That's what line improvement is for!