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| Jetgirls Member | Hi everyone! DH had this fwd'ed to him. It's a response to someone complaining about pilots being overpaid. I thought it was pretty good so I'll share it w/ you all...sorry for the language in the last paragraph! Do you know that when you see a pilot, he's not being paid? When you see a pilot going through the same security you go through, he's not being paid. When you see a pilot walking in the terminal, he's not being paid. When you see a pilot at the gate pulling up paper work, planning the flight, and conferring with the agent, he's not being paid. When you see a pilot walking around the aircraft doing a preflight inspection, he's not being paid. When you board the aircraft and look in the cockpit and see the pilots setting up the aircraft, they're not getting paid. When you land safely at your destination and walk off the aircraft and see the pilots shutting down the aircraft, they're not being paid. When you see a pilot waiting for a ride to a hotel for the night, he's not being paid. The only time the pilot of your aircraft is getting paid is when you DON"T see him... when he's locked behind the cockpit door as you push back from the gate. Every thing else he does until this point is for free. For no wages. Nothing! The average airline pilot is at work for 12- 14 hours per day, yet gets paid for less than 6 - 7 hours. The average airline pilot is away from home, at work, for 70+ hours a week, yet gets paid for only 15 to 18 hours per weeks work. Most pilots schedules have them working 15 days or more a month... that means they are not at home half the month. Holidays, weekends, birthdays, anniversaries, summer vacations.... not at home. A majority of pilots have 4 year college degrees, or more. Then they begin training as pilots. A large majority of Pilots have spent 8 years or more flying in the military, risking their lives and protecting your freedom for wages most of you wouldn't accep t in the civilian world. Civilian trained pilots have spent $50,000 or more to acquire the training that qualifies them for a Regional Airline job, which pays a wage less than the poverty level in most western countries. Most pilots do not attain the required experience level to be hired by a major airline until they are well passed the age of 30. The average age of a new hire airline pilot is 32. Airline pilots are required to retire at the age of 60. This gives most of them less than 28 years to maximize their income and fund their pensions, hoping that greedy airline execs won't steal it. Airline pilots are subject to random drug and alcohol testing, any time they are at work. Fail it and they lose their job. Airline pilots are required to undergo rigorous re-training and certification every 6 to 9 months, at which time they could fail and lose their jobs, licenses and livelihood. ; Airline pilots are required to submit to random government "Line checks" during which their license could be revoked and livelihood destroyed. Airline pilots are exposed to radiation levels far exceeding the normal safe radiation limits mandated by the FDA. Airline pilots are required to submit to a government medical examination every 6 months (Captains) and 12 months as First Officers. Year after year. Fail that, and their career is over. How many of you go to work where people try to kill you? How many of you have had your office turned into a cruise missile? How many of you work behind a bullet proof door? How many of you are responsible for the lives of 200- 300 people, with any small mistake in your performance resulting in the death of your customers (and yourselves), and the financial destruction of your company? How many of your jobs require you to fight your way through thunderstorms, rain, snow, ice and turbulence, day and night, year after year? No mistakes allowed? The excuse " I had a bad day at work" never accepted? Many pilots volunteer (on their own time and own dime) to be trained as Federal Flight Deck Officers, and carry weapons to defend their aircraft, crew and passengers. They maintain their proficiency and qualifications twice a year on their own time and money. How many of you go to work where you are searched, patted down and your personal items scrutinized by strangers, even though you can kill everyone in your place of work with your two bare hands? Airline pilot pay scales and hours worked are usually posted by absurdly overcompensated Airline Exec's who are waging a PR campaign against their Pilot Unions and trying to justify their own greedy bonus's and draconian wage and pension cuts. Cheap a** airline passengers just love this s*** since they don't care if thei r airplane is flown by the lowest denominator, as long as they can fly for next to nothing. Course if they don't get to their destination, their next of kin can sue....
__________________ Stacy DH Paden, 737 Airtran FO (ATL), DS's Jack 2/11/02 & Josh 6/4/04 |
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| I have seen that before. Actually, mine is making $1.85 an hour when he is "seen"!!! How lucky!! It's funny because up until 2 years ago, my brother a mechanic now for JetBLue, who has been in the airlines for close to 12 years, actually thought pilots get paid their hourly rate from their check-in time until they finish their trip! Wouldn't that be nice! He was shocked to find out that they didn't. I couldn't believe he did not know that after all those years. I would bet the majority of people, even other employee groups in airlines, don't know that. Just what management wants! |
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| Oh, that is so good! People all the time assume my DH makes a lot of money b/c they may hear that pilots make a lot an hour, but I have to tell them how few hours they actually get paid vs. being at work. People were shocked to find out that we were below gov't poverty level for a 3 person family during DH's first year at SkyWest. But I did read an article some place about who you are supposed to give a cash tip to when they help you out/take you some place and so on. Airline pilots were on the list. LOL It said that people should tip the pilots 10% of their ticket price. Of course not that anyone would ever dream of doing that....but wouldn't that be awesome!! LOL |
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| Jetgirls Ol' School Member | I feel like I am constantly trying to explain to other people that DH doesn't get paid when he is sitting and waiting to take off in between flights. I was telling them about 3-4 hour sits at airports and how he is only paid for "flight time". They have no idea. They think all pilots make 200-300k a year....yeah, we all wish right! They think it is great we can fly for "free", ummm...yes, if there is open seats! And I would rather pay for a ticket than not see my husband 1/2 the month! It makes it worse for us since we do have 2 homes...but the only reason we do is because DH is the cheapest person ever...and because we bought our lake house before we even bought our condo (and we bought the lake house with his parents initally....when he bought it with them he was making less than 19k flying the Mighty Beech for Express). The only reason we have what we have is because the little bird sits outside DH window and says "cheap, cheap.....cheap, cheap"! I would love to show the public that email message, although then they would say the pilots are "whining" right! Thanks for sharing! |
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| I loved this, thank you so much. Our extended family can't understand how we can be struggling so much financially. -After all DH is a pilot. (Exactly the point, DH is a pilot!) I am definately going to be cutting this information and forwarding it on to those family members (our parents) who think otherwise. Not only is it frustrating to be struggling, it is also frustrating to not be taken seriously by family members who believe all airline pilots make a ton of money. |
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| I posted this on my SAHM board that I post on and most of them were shocked! Of course, there was one person quick to point out that the retirement age just went up . I'm sure trying to make it look like the rest of it was BS too. Whatever... I tried. |
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| I know this was posted a while ago, but thank you so much for sharing. I absolutely loved reading it, and it made me so proud of what my boyfriend does especially knowing that it's his passion for flying that makes it all worthwhile. Now anytime I hear someone say something rude about pilots, I have this to shove in their face muahaha ![]() |
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